November 24:  There is snow at higher elevations on north slopes but in most cases it is probably shallow, though probably good snow can be found.  Snow below treeline is still shallow

--The road to Gothic is open.  The road is snowpacked and icy in places but with continued traffic it is wide and packed down so not bad.  be careful of cars coming in the opposite direct.  All wheel drive is recommended as going uphill could be slick.